[obs-tap] Data Rights

[Mireille Louys]

Hi Petr, Hi all ,

Thank you for pointing this.
It is actually even worse:
while trying to fix this I read in Spectrum DM that Rights is borrowed 
from Resource.Rights for public/proprietary. mixed is added but not 
defined .
if I check in the most recent document : VODataservice , I found
3 possible values  :
public, secure, and proprietary

if I check in SSA1.1 I find only a short sentence, considering 2 values: 
public/proprietary

I wish we can homogeneise these and suggest to adopt the VODataservice 
convention for all documents.

would you agree with this?
Thanks for your reply,

Mireille, DM Chair


On 28/03/2011 12:14, Petr Skoda wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have checked the SDM v 1.1 and I see conflict in Curation.rights in 
> ObsTAP ( Public/Reserved/Proprietary)  and SDM 1.1 (table 1 - page 19 ?
> ) where it is Curation.Rights (public,proprietary, mixed)
>
> And in ObsTAP section B4 (data_rights) it is written
> PUBLIC,PROTECTED,PROPRIETARY - referring to SDM
>
> In any case there is no explanation what does it mean  (neither in SDM)
>
> what is Reserved?
> what is Mixed?
> what is PROTECTED ?
>
> in addition - taking obsTAP B.5. (release date)
>
> what is  said - the time stamp is here to distiguish public and 
> private observation - tells when product will be available.
>
> first
>
> 1) the format YYYY-MM-DDThh:mm:ss is not ISO 8601 but a restricted 
> representation of ISO - and the same hold what I said earlier about SSAP
> (e.g. we should force the "T" instead of space, following rather the 
> limits of RFC  3339.
>
>
> second
>
> The nature of proprietary data can be different -
> some are kept secret for ever as the observatory is private (e.g. Keck)
> The government-funded data shoudl be published after some time so they 
> will become public. But some organizations may have strict policy on 
> proprietary period (e.g. 1 year and then the data may be released) some
> may decide aftetr some push ;-) to release certain data (when no one 
> from the original PI's has interested in them) etc ...
>
> And some may publish high-level product (measurements ... derived 
> parameters like log g, Teff ....spectral class...) but not the 
> original level 2 data or even the level 0.
>
> How to describe the rights, various *did* (obs_publisher_id), data 
> level etc .... to get the idea hwat I can get now ?
>
> the question as well is what the service should return for data 
> propietary data -  As I remember soem discussion ago the 
> recommnedation was to publish all metadata but not the contents (i.e. 
> what we want to do in Access format and access reference....
>
> Simply I think its a sensitive problem desiring more detailed 
> explanation in obsTAP . (in addition to correcting the discrepancies 
> with SDM)
>
>
> Petr
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