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Dear Mar* and DAL,<br>
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I agree, this Erratum does seem pretty harmless to me. Some of the
existing SCS have already taken the liberty to adopt the VOTable
version they want/need.<br>
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Though I am no VOTable expert, I do not think of any VOTable 1.2+
feature that would break existing SCS clients...maybe someone with
more experience with VOTable or SCS client would think differently,
and if so, please, speak up. Anyway, SCS being very simple, I do not
expect a lot of bad surprises in the existing client implementations
(which should already be able to deal easily with VOTable 1.2+).<br>
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If in the same Erratum, I think it would also be OK to update the
recommendation about the mime-type to use. Since it is a `SHOULD`
and not a `MUST` it is however not a problem, according to me, to
wait for the next version of SCS to change it.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Grégory<br>
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Markus, Mark, DAL,</div>
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took the liberty to draft the erratum:</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace">I'll
try to work a bit better on the impact assessment </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace">(if
you already have some numbers there it would help).</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace">I
remember many services already returned VOTable-1.3.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace">Also
the rationale might need some rewording.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace">I
wonder if (same erratum, w/ title change) we can </div>
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clarify the mime-type there (same block of </div>
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maybe simply pointing to the VOTable </div>
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directly.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace">The
above erratum is freely modifiable and, if/when</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace">better
agreed, I'll copy it also on the relevant </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace">github
repo issue for the future version.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace">Cheers</div>
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Marco</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno mer 17 nov 2021
alle ore 12:18 Mark Taylor <<a
href="mailto:m.b.taylor@bristol.ac.uk"
moz-do-not-send="true">m.b.taylor@bristol.ac.uk</a>> ha
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sounds OK.<br>
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2021, Markus Demleitner wrote:<br>
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> Dear DAL WG,<br>
> <br>
> Since I once again ran into an annoyance in connection
with SCS's<br>
> instistance on VOTable 1.1 (you can't have datalink
blocks on SCS<br>
> because VOTable 1.1 can't have GROUP-s in RESOURCE-s as
required by<br>
> Datalink): at the Ops session of the last interop, it
sounded like<br>
> nobody seriously expected SCS services any more to
honour that<br>
> requirement. I'd certainly advocate such a stance, as
I believe<br>
> there is no operational reason for it any more
(meaning: nothing in<br>
> actual use will break if we drop it).<br>
> <br>
> Now, if indeed nobody really expects VOTable 1.1 to
come out of SCS<br>
> any more: Can't we write an erratum to SCS that just
drops this<br>
> single thing? True, we've been labouring with a larger
update on<br>
> SCS, but that work is tough going for a number of
reasons, and,<br>
> frankly, I can't see that coming around for another
year at the very<br>
> least.<br>
> <br>
> So... would anyone speak up against such an erratum,
even though it<br>
> perhaps stretches a bit the notion of "erratum"?<br>
> <br>
> -- Markus<br>
> <br>
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--<br>
Mark Taylor Astronomical Programmer Physics, Bristol
University, UK<br>
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<div><font face="monospace">Marco Molinaro</font></div>
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