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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In reading this document, I find the language used is sometimes quite confusing about what is required. Here are a few issues I note.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">All of these are just confusing language, not real issues, but I hope this could be clarified.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> Tom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Section 2.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“The VOSI capability[, if present,] MUST be a sibling …” I think we need to be careful when stating MUST about an optional feature.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">2.1
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The wording: “The response, by default, MUST …” is confusing. What does it mean to say that something MUST do something by default.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Maybe “The service MUST support a VOTable response as described in …. Other formats may be supported but are not covered by this standard.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">How about…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“The recommended format for the Simple Cone Search …”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“URLs of the form …. are also permitted but this form is DEPRECATED for new services.”<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">What does “… MUST treat opaquely …” mean? I haven’t a clue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">2.1.1/2 “Single value” or “Single valued”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">2.1.6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Again the statement of what is required is unclear.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“The service SHOULD support an optional RESPONSEFORMAT keyword. If this is not specified or if it is supported and the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">user specifies any of the values … then the service MUST return a VOTable as described in section 3. Other values MAY<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">be supported by a particular service but in this case the response format is not defined herein.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">2.4. I suspect that this is where all statements of the siblinghood of the capabilities resource should be made. I.e., the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">text in my first comment belongs here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">3. Another “MUST, by default,” which is very awkward. How about…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“Unless another supported format is specified in the RESPONSEFORMAT keyword, the response shall be in …”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Should there be a statement of what is supposed to happen if an unsupported format is requested? [Possibly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">stating that the behavior is undefined.]
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Somewhere put “The syntax of other response formats is not defined in this standard”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I believe the wording here is over specific about the content of the returned VOTable and references to “sources” or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">any specific content should be deleted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">E.g., there are many cone search services which return observations of positions in the sky, not sources. A clearer and more generic statement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">might be “ The returned VOTable SHALL contain all rows of the specified service whose position and/or time fields meet the spatial and/or temporal constraints<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">specified unless a row limit specified by the user or the service is exceeded. Additional rows that do not meet the constraints MAY be returned.”
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">3.1 I think it would be clearer if the text went something like:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“There MUST be exactly one FIELD with each of the following U<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:20.25pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">ID_MAIN …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">POS_EQ_RA_MAIN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">POS_EQ_DEC_MAIN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I believe that that the requirement that there be a time.epoch;meta.main keyword must be preceded by<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“Exactly one FIELD with the following UCDs MAY be present<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The current wording which requires a time column invalidates most of the existing cone services.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">4. I find this a real mess and I’m not at all sure of what the standard wants…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Are queries that have too many rows errors?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If we are going to talk about OVERFLOWs here, then I think you need to change<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">the chapter title to something like:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:2.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“Query Status and Errors”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Then the content can be something like:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“New services SHOULD provide query status and respond to errors as discussed in DALI. Existing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">A service MUST return an error document (using one of the above choices) in the following circumstances:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> A required parameter (RA, DEC, SR) is missing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> Any of these required parameters has an unphysical value.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">A service may return an error for too large a value for the SR parameter, errors in optional<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">When returning a response in the standard VOTable format, services which truncate a query<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">indicate a truncated query.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">4.1 The current draft uses an unqualified MUST . That has to be fixed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Maybe:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“Existing services MAY use an older syntax to indicate an error. When a error is detected, a VOTABLE which contains a PARAM element or
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">INFO elements with name=”Error” is returned. The corresponding value attribute should …:”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> dal-bounces@ivoa.net [mailto:dal-bounces@ivoa.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Molinaro, Marco<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Theresa Dower <dower@stsci.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> dal@ivoa.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] WD-ConeSearch-1.1-20200828 - HTML fixed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Apologizing for this again, now there's a proper HTML <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">version of the ConeSearch WD 1.1 on the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">repository.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Thanks again Theresa for spotting this!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">ciao<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> Marco<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Il giorno mar 1 set 2020 alle ore 17:16 Molinaro, Marco <<a href="mailto:marco.molinaro@inaf.it">marco.molinaro@inaf.it</a>> ha scritto:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Hi Theresa,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">thanks for reporting the problem with the .html<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">(it is so also on the file on my laptop...I'll investigate and fix)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">In my view the registry discussion for ConeSearch is still in progress.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Also having it in SimpleDALRegExt only or in both documents or only in <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">the ConeSearch document is (my opinion) still in discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">I hope the GitHub issues can help to find the way, issues #32 and #33 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">can be seen as a start there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">A (short) discussion on the ConeSearch status will happen tomorrow, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Wednesday 2 September 2020 - 13:00 UTC in the DAL running meeting #3:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">(</span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.ivoa.net_twiki_bin_view_IVOA_IvoaDAL-5FRunningMeetings-23RM3&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=5-rxdVHKk-CZU3ZU-QRslzLsDWf2NC8zdiGorOLqaXo&m=aNTg_ZdqzmgAH7pliq-f0_MCNa4dF-mzegCnUS4o40I&s=Z_86YDSBiZ1ZwcrvmfT7_Zs5vulTBYdewBDCc4TzJOc&e=" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/IvoaDAL_RunningMeetings#RM3</span></a><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">it could be another place to discuss this.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Cheers</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> Marco</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Il giorno mar 1 set 2020 alle ore 16:41 Theresa Dower <<a href="mailto:dower@stsci.edu" target="_blank">dower@stsci.edu</a>> ha scritto:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks for sending this around!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">A note, it looks like the generated HTML version of the standard (</span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ivoa.net_documents_ConeSearch_20200828_WD-2DConeSearch-2D1.1-2D20200828.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk&r=5-rxdVHKk-CZU3ZU-QRslzLsDWf2NC8zdiGorOLqaXo&m=aNTg_ZdqzmgAH7pliq-f0_MCNa4dF-mzegCnUS4o40I&s=ZT6dalo65l03adJ7l0VCGUHMZ9H9Ekq61eKIY-63MVU&e=" target="_blank" id="gmail-m_6798124466907330350gmail-m_1858027543184718303LPlnk231665"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">http://ivoa.net/documents/ConeSearch/20200828/WD-ConeSearch-1.1-20200828.html</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">)
is cut off after section 2.1. I haven't investigated what the page generation might have got caught up on. The PDF and TeX are fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From the Registry end: it seems it may be helpful to add capability/interface information noting time information support, especially in the test query. Note this change would be in SimpleDALRegExt,
and included back to the main CS document. Do we think this section is solid enough to work on it now, or do we keep it in mind for later in the WD process?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">--Theresa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><a href="mailto:dal-bounces@ivoa.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">dal-bounces@ivoa.net</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <</span><a href="mailto:dal-bounces@ivoa.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">dal-bounces@ivoa.net</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>
on behalf of Molinaro, Marco <</span><a href="mailto:marco.molinaro@inaf.it" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">marco.molinaro@inaf.it</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 29, 2020 6:12:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> IVOA DAL<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Working Draft - Simple Cone Search, v.1.1 2020-08-28 - released</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">It's WD-ConeSearch-1.1-20200828 and you can find <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">- Discovery of versioned ConSearch services<br>
- Make TIME aware ConeSearch services discoverable<br>
- HTTP GET/POST w.r.t. endpoints & heritage<br>
- Move Unified Content Descriptors to UCD1+ standard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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- VOTable response version<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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- VOTable examples (Appendix A)<br>
- unrecognized custom parameter and optional parameters responses<br>
- All sky search radius (also time filtering relevant)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier New""> Marco & Ada (as ConeSearch editors)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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