TAP information schema
Alex Szalay
szalay at jhu.edu
Thu Oct 11 04:27:17 PDT 2007
My 2 cents on Sync/Async:
we desperately need this feature to build the next generation scalable
services. Not to have this is simply not an option in my opinion
I think that most of the hard work that went into VOSpace was with this
feature in mind, so I would strongly recommend that the default proposal is
to use VOSpace for async messaging
We still may want to retain the ability to do sync returns, especially for
small requests (like metadata). It would increase the responsiveness of our
services if for such requests we could expect an immediate response.
--Alex
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Noddle [mailto:ktn at star.le.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 4:55 AM
To: Doug Tody
Cc: Francois Ochsenbein; Ray Plante; Patrick Dowler; Mark Taylor; Alex
Szalay; dal at ivoa.net
Subject: Re: TAP information schema
> Good progress has been made
I'm not sure I agree. With the greatest of respect to all involved, this
debate is more notable for those not engaged than those who are. If we
continue along this track and time line, we risk ignoring the hard and
detailed work that went into defining the VOResource family of schemata.
We also ignore the investment various VO projects have made in them.
Furthermore, without a context (i.e. Use Cases) within which to frame
the current Info Schema work, how can we be sure it is either complete
or optimal?
It seems logical to me that we elect to use the existing body of
approved work to define what content metadata are returned from a TAP
V1.0 (note: V1.0) compliant service and move onto the main body of work
for TAP V1.0, namely the definition of how we process and manage ADQL
queries. The sorts of questions we should be addressing are:
- SOAP or REST?
- Synchronous?
- Asynchronous?
- If asynch:
- how do we handle return of results?
- VOSpace?
- Staging?
- What are the issues for either?
- etc
If we focus on these and strive to keep TAP V1.0 as simple as possible,
we can get it approved and move onto examining the more challenging (and
interesting) problems that lie ahead, especially the definition of the
Use Cases we are trying to address with Table Access in general.
Keith.
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