<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks again for those who have already provided their availabilities in the doodle poll below. For the others who are interested in joining this work, please enter your availabilities asap such that I can schedule the call with sufficient time. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would also like to remind those actioned below to provide use cases to send them to me at your earliest convenience such that we can prioritize activities. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please, realize that we need your active collaboration to be able to make a positive impact on this important activity. With the current response rate, we might not be able to do much.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bruno</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 13, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Bruno Merin <<a href="mailto:bmerin@sciops.esa.int" class="">bmerin@sciops.esa.int</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Dear all,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please find below my rough notes of the splinter meeting on “Radioastronomy in the VO” that we held last Friday 11th of October of 2019 from 17:00 to 18:00. Please send me any corrections that might be needed by the end of Friday 18th of October of 2019.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Several IVOA members proposed the idea of creating a “Radioastronomy” Interest Group inside the IVOA to carry on defining and implementing the changes needed to get better integration of Radioastronomy data into the VO. At the moment the proposal is being discussed at the IVOA executive committee (exec). Should it be accepted we would need someone with radio experience to volunteer to chair it, supported by someone aware of the VO as support.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Doodle for follow-up meeting: </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://doodle.com/poll/2mct7p9a2bw4eeek" class="">https://doodle.com/poll/2mct7p9a2bw4eeek</a> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(meeting at 11 am EST = 17:00 CET = 0.00 CST)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bruno</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class=""><b class="">Splinter on Radioastronomy in the VO</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">11th October 2019; 5 - 6 pm; DOT and then Student Hotel</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">At the meeting: </div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">François Bonarel (CDS, IVOA TCG)</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Mark Allen (CDS, IVOA chair)</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Janet Evans (CXC, TCG vice char)</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Harold Verkouter (JIVE)</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">James Dempsey (CSIRO)</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Zheng Meyer Zhao (ASTRON)</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Mattia Macini (ASTRON)</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Yan Grange (ASTRON) </div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Marco Iacobelli (ASTRON) </div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">JJ Kavelaars (CADC, IVOA exec)</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Mark Kettenis (JIVE) </div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Mark Lacy (NRAO, IVOA CSP member) </div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Andreas Wicenec (ICRAR, IVOA exec)</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Raffaele D’Abrusco (CXC, IVOACSP) </div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Bruno Merín (ESA, IVOA CSP chair) </div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class="">All the presentations from the “Radioastronomy in the VO” session on Friday 11/10/2019 morning can be found at:</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; min-height: 14px;" class=""><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue" class=""><a href="https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpOct2019RadioVO" class="">https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpOct2019RadioVO</a></font></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><u class="">Proposals for small things that we could do to improve the discoverability of Radioastronomy data in the VO (low hanging fruit):</u></div>
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<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Mark Lacy: add Largest Anglular Scale in ObsCore (already part of the CAOM model, JJ recommends using the same language as in CAOM not to create confusion)</li>
<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">JJ Kavelaars: adding the number of antenae in ObsCore for interferometry</li>
<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">François Bonnarel: options to achieve that:</li>
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<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">add an extension to Radioastronomy ObsCore</li>
<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">use the provenance extension</li>
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<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Harold Verkouten : A point spread function of UV plane would contain useful information for someone to explore whether data would be useful. The minimum and maximum resolution is a crude estimate and might be useful as metadata.</li><ul class="">
<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">François Bonarel: extension of Characterization</li>
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<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">James Dempsey: what about UV coverage ?</li><ul class="">
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<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Raffaele D’Abrusco : we need to either generalize some of the mandatory fields to cover your use case or add new things to reflect. E.g. target is very well defined and e.g. it cannot be a number of celestial sources.</li>
<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">François Bonarel: Francesca from the Italian VO said that they wanted to add CAOM on top of ObsCore. This is something to be checked in the DL and DAL group.</li>
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<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">JJ Kavelaar: we express our ObsCore as a view in our service, there is no translation between CAOM and ObsCore. That makes things easier.</li>
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<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Zheng Meyer Zhao: How are we going to organize work done in this working group ?</li><ul class=""><li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Bruno Merín: I propose we organize a telecon once in a while with everyone in copy to try to identify the low-hanging fruit actions and try to implement them.</li></ul>
<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">François Bonarel: changing ObsCore might imply problems in other domains so there are something that we talk often which is the concept of an extension, which has never been done so far but it could be useful</li>
<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Andreas Wicenec: we should add to ObsCore the little strings with the configuration, which is very specific to each instrument. This is very difficult to standardize.</li>
<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Marco Iacobelli : any representation we do should be based on physical units (bandwidth, frequency ranges, spectral and time resolution). In the interferometry, some of these things depend on the UV coverage. It would be very interesting to map all the instrument features/properties that can be translated for physical parameters for the user to query.</li>
<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Mattia Macini : Would it be an idea to map the visibility in the sky with tessellation and then allow searched based on that tessellation?</li>
<li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Mark Lacy: Faraday Rotation and Rotation Measure are slightly harder problems than those discussed here so we might leave them for a later iteration.</li>
</ul><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><u class="">Further discussion on implementations :</u></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; min-height: 14px;" class=""><ul class=""><li style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; margin: 0px; line-height: normal;" class="">Mark Kettenis: what is the best practice for finding sources in an ObsCore response?</li><ul style="font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Bruno Merín: the query just responds how many observations there are on a particular region of the sky.</li><li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">François Bonarel: the intended target is part of the metadata</li><li style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">We had then a discussion about the fact that mapping the observation “target” field to the actual central positions of the different observing modes in radio is not straightforward since there are off target points for background, or complex dithers that constitute part of a single (or several) observations. In spite of all that complexity, it was believed that the notion of an observation “footprint” was a valid one that could be developed and used to allow for searches in archives.</li></ul></ul><div class=""><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue" class=""><u class="">Next steps:</u></font></div><div class=""><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><ul class="MailOutline"><li class=""><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue" class="">We agreed that we need now two to three data search use cases from the different observatories to then be able to identify the highest impact change to either ObsCore or an extension to ObsCore.</font></li><li class=""><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue" class="">This prioritized list of use cases (by impact for users) will be discussed then with the IVOA TCG (Technical Coordination Group) to identify the fastest possible implementations.</font></li><li class=""><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue" class="">We should all meet in a telecon in a month time together with the TCG chairs to review the use cases and identify possible implementations and/or updates of standards. In order the find the best date and time, please give me your availabilities at the following doodle poll:</font></li></ul><div class=""><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue" class=""><br class=""></font></div><ul class="MailOutline"><li class=""><a href="https://doodle.com/poll/2mct7p9a2bw4eeek" class="">https://doodle.com/poll/2mct7p9a2bw4eeek</a></li></ul></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><u class="">Actions:</u></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><ol class="MailOutline"><li class=""><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue" class="">Action on </font><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">François Bonarel</span><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">: provide 3 data search use cases for radioastronomy data in CDS</span></li><li class=""><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue" class="">Action on </font><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">Mark Kettenis and Harold Verkouter : provide 3 data search use cases for radioastronomy data in JIVE</span></li><li class=""><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue" class="">Action on </font><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">James Dempsey: provide 3 data search use cases for radioastronomy data in CSIRO</span></li><li class=""><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue" class="">Action on </font><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">Marco Iacobelli: provide 3 data search use cases for radioastronomy data in ASTRON</span></li><li class=""><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue" class="">Action on </font><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">Mark Lacy </span><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">: provide 3 data search use cases for radioastronomy data in NRAO</span></li><li class=""><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue" class="">Action on Jun Han</font><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class=""> </span><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">: provide 3 data search use cases for radioastronomy data in FAST</span></li><li class=""><font color="#454545" face="Helvetica Neue" class="">Action on Andreas Wicenec: </font><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">provide 3 data search use cases for radioastronomy data in ICRAR and SKA</span></li><div class=""> </div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></ol></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 11, 2019, at 3:18 PM, Bruno Merin <<a href="mailto:bmerin@sciops.esa.int" class="">bmerin@sciops.esa.int</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks very much to all the presenters for the nice and clear presentations today. We would like to propose to have a 1-hour discussion TODAY starting at 5 pm in the café of the PODLive Planetarium to try to identify some low-hanging fruit (i.e. a few things that we could do already at the meeting) and try to implement them before Sunday. We should also discuss the steps to follow to support any observatory that is interested in exposing their data holdings through the VO interfaces in the mid-term future.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><u class="">What:</u> followup discussion on Radioastronomy in the VO</div><div class=""><u class="">When:</u> TODAY 11 October 2019 from 5 to 6 pm</div><div class=""><u class="">Where:</u> PODLive Planetarium café</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In particular, we would be great to have the TCG chair and/or vicechairs in the meeting to help us identify where is the low-hanging fruit.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Many thanks in advance for your time,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bruno</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:30 PM, Bruno Merin <<a href="mailto:bmerin@sciops.esa.int" class="">bmerin@sciops.esa.int</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Dear all,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks so much for your responses and apologies for the late response from my side. Here below you can find the link to the draft agenda for the “Radioastronomy in the VO” session, scheduled for Friday 11th of October of 2019 from 11:00 to 12:30 at the DOT Planetarium of Groningen:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpOct2019RadioVO" class="">https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpOct2019RadioVO</a></div><div class=""><h5 class=""><span style="font-size: 12px; font-weight: normal;" class="">Friday October 11, 13h30 - 15h, Room DOT</span></h5><table id="table1" class="twikiTable" rules="all" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="1" border="0">
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<td class="twikiTableCol3 twikiLast twikiLastCol" valign="top" bgcolor="#e8e8e8"> <font color="#000066" style="font-size: 12px;" class=""> </font></td></tr></tbody></table><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would like to ask for explicit confirmation from those in the draft agenda above about their availability to give such presentation, their preference for title and duration (including questions) and any other comments or suggestions that you might have. In particular, I would need confirmation about Mike Sipior’s presentation which is also scheduled in the OPS session on Saturday but I also added to the agenda if possible here to have a full picture of all available services before the discussion afterwards. Of course, this is a draft agenda and it can be changed as needed before the session itself, so just let me know your preferences.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We look forward meeting you all on Friday and together contributing to bringing all these precious Radioastronomical data into the VO world to everyone’s benefit. I hope that this session, together with other earlier work already being pushed forward in the ASTERICS and ESCAPE projects, might help us move on significantly in this long-standing wish of the VO and Radioastronomy user communities.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bruno</div><div class="">On behalf of the IVOA’s Committee on Science Priorities (CSP)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In copy:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Rosie Bolton, SKA Organization (<a href="mailto:R.Bolton@skatelescope.org" class="">R.Bolton@skatelescope.org</a>)</div><div class="">Mark Kettenis, JIVE (<a href="mailto:kettenis@jive.eu" class="">kettenis@jive.eu</a>)</div><div class="">Zheng Mayer-Zhao, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:meyer@astron.nl" class="">meyer@astron.nl</a>)</div><div class=""><div class="">Michiel van Haarlem, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:haarlem@astron.nl" class="">haarlem@astron.nl</a>)</div><div class="">Francois Bonnarel (CDS, <a href="mailto:francois.bonnarel@astro.unistra.fr" class="">francois.bonnarel@astro.unistra.fr</a>)</div></div><div class=""><div class="">James Dempsey, CSIRO (<a href="mailto:James.Dempsey@csiro.au" class="">James.Dempsey@csiro.au</a>) - also the DAL WG vice chair</div><div class="">Mark Lacy, NRAO (<a href="mailto:mlacy@nrao.edu" class="">mlacy@nrao.edu</a>) - and CSP member</div></div><div class="">Roberto Pizzo, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:pizzo@astron.nl" class="">pizzo@astron.nl</a>) </div></div><div class="">Marco Iacobelli, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:iacobelli@astron.nl" class="">iacobelli@astron.nl</a>)</div><div class="">Jun Han, China-VO (<a href="mailto:hanjun@nao.cas.cn" class="">hanjun@nao.cas.cn</a>)</div><div class="">Alessandra Zanichelli, INAF (<a href="mailto:a.zanichelli@ira.inaf.it" class="">a.zanichelli@ira.inaf.it</a>)</div><div class="">Arpad Szomoru, JIVE (<a href="mailto:szomoru@jive.eu" class="">szomoru@jive.eu</a>)</div><div class="">Harro Verkouter, JIVE (<a href="mailto:verkouter@jive.eu" class="">verkouter@jive.eu</a>)</div><div class="">Zheng Meyer, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:meyer@astron.nl" class="">meyer@astron.nl</a>)</div><div class="">Yan Grange, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:grange@astron.nl" class="">grange@astron.nl</a>)</div><div class="">Mark Sipior, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:sipior@astron.nl" class="">sipior@astron.nl</a>)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Bruno Merin <<a href="mailto:bmerin@sciops.esa.int" class="">bmerin@sciops.esa.int</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As some of you might know, the International Virtual Observatory Alliance (<a href="http://ivoa.net/" class="">IVOA</a>) is meeting from the 11th to the 13th of October at the DOTliveplanetarium in Groningen (meeting page <a href="https://www.adass2019.nl/ivoa/ivoa-2/" class="">here</a>). Given the vast experience in radioastronomy in the area and the potential availability of several expert radioastronomers in the area, we had the idea of organizing a “Radioastronomy in the VO” session to examine together the availability to radio data in the VO and try to identify the simplest steps to connect both worlds or at least to move slightly in the right direction. We would be talking about a 1.5 to 2 hour plenary session during the IVOA interop meeting in Groningen with a few small presentations to set the context and a discussion on what to do next. We would first like to invite you all to this session (either in person or remotely, giving a talk or just participating in the discussion) and would like to ask how do you think this discussion could be more useful to both parties. We will take care of all the logistics of the session.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">An earlier similar discussion already took place in the context of the ESCAPE project and the notes can be found <a href="https://www.asterics2020.eu/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=open:wp4:wp4techforum5:radiointhevo" class="">here</a>. Therefore, we could start the session with a summary of the conclusions from the earlier meeting by e.g. Francois Bonnarel from CDS and then try to identify the next steps to make all the Radio data easily available to the VO world and viceversa. We are very much aware that this is a long-standing goal from the VO but we are determined to give it a second push now that many interfaces and protocols have matured substantially in the VO side.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Any further comments and thoughts from any of you, or any recommendation to contact any other people in the data providers world for radioastronomy would be very useful too. I look forward hearing from you about this.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is the list of people that I have addressed this message to, together with their affiliation and potential role in the IVOA:<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Rosie Bolton, SKA Organization (<a href="mailto:R.Bolton@skatelescope.org" class="">R.Bolton@skatelescope.org</a>)</div><div class="">Mark Kettenis, JIVE (<a href="mailto:kettenis@jive.eu" class="">kettenis@jive.eu</a>)</div><div class="">Zheng Mayer-Zhao, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:meyer@astron.nl" class="">meyer@astron.nl</a>)</div><div class=""><div class="">Michiel van Haarlem, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:haarlem@astron.nl" class="">haarlem@astron.nl</a>)</div><div class="">Francois Bonnarel (CDS, <a href="mailto:francois.bonnarel@astro.unistra.fr" class="">francois.bonnarel@astro.unistra.fr</a>)</div></div><div class=""><div class="">James Dempsey, CSIRO (<a href="mailto:James.Dempsey@csiro.au" class="">James.Dempsey@csiro.au</a>) - also the DAL WG vice chair</div><div class="">Mark Lacy, NRAO (<a href="mailto:mlacy@nrao.edu" class="">mlacy@nrao.edu</a>) - and CSP member</div></div><div class="">Roberto Pizzo, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:pizzo@astron.nl" class="">pizzo@astron.nl</a>) </div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards and thanks in advance for your responses,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bruno</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On behalf of the IVOA Committee on Science Priorities (CSP)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
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