<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks very much Andreas,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Would it make sense to have a short presentation on this? If so, could you do it and how much time would be needed?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Many thanks again,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bruno</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 8, 2019, at 4:56 AM, Andreas Wicenec <<a href="mailto:andreas.wicenec@uwa.edu.au" class="">andreas.wicenec@uwa.edu.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div dir="auto" class="">Just to make you aware that there is work and discussions ongoing about a new version of the Measurement Set data model and we will also discuss the future of casacore and the MSv3 table system implementation to support real parallel I/O using
advanced libraries such as ADIOS2 and HDF5. I think this discussion is very relevant for this session and indeed the MSv3 model would benefit from a proper data modelling exercise as well as a straight integration into the IVOA standards system.</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">My team also just recently has finished an enormous SKA simulation using the whole SUMMIT supercomputer and achieving an ingest pipeline throughput up to the writing of measurement sets of about twice the rate of the SKA1-Low, producing 115
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 7 Oct. 2019 16:40, Bruno Merin <<a href="mailto:bmerin@sciops.esa.int" class="">bmerin@sciops.esa.int</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class="">
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<div class="">That would be great indeed. I will add it to the agenda with 2 + 2 minutes.</div>
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<div class=""><p class="">If you think there will be time in the discussion session and it won't be covered in the talks I can make a couple of slides on rotation measure data products.</p><p class="">Cheers,</p><p class="">Mark<br class="">
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<div class="">Thanks so much for your responses and apologies for the late response from my side. Here below you can find the link to the draft agenda for the “Radioastronomy in the VO” session, scheduled for Friday 11th of October of 2019 from 11:00 to 12:30 at the
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<div class="">I would like to ask for explicit confirmation from those in the draft agenda above about their availability to give such presentation, their preference for title and duration (including questions) and any other comments or suggestions that you might have.
In particular, I would need confirmation about Mike Sipior’s presentation which is also scheduled in the OPS session on Saturday but I also added to the agenda if possible here to have a full picture of all available services before the discussion afterwards.
Of course, this is a draft agenda and it can be changed as needed before the session itself, so just let me know your preferences.</div>
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<div class="">We look forward meeting you all on Friday and together contributing to bringing all these precious Radioastronomical data into the VO world to everyone’s benefit. I hope that this session, together with other earlier work already being pushed forward in
the ASTERICS and ESCAPE projects, might help us move on significantly in this long-standing wish of the VO and Radioastronomy user communities.</div>
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<div class="">Rosie Bolton, SKA Organization (<a href="mailto:R.Bolton@skatelescope.org" class="">R.Bolton@skatelescope.org</a>)</div>
<div class="">Mark Kettenis, JIVE (<a href="mailto:kettenis@jive.eu" class="">kettenis@jive.eu</a>)</div>
<div class="">Zheng Mayer-Zhao, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:meyer@astron.nl" class="">meyer@astron.nl</a>)</div>
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<div class="">Michiel van Haarlem, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:haarlem@astron.nl" class="">haarlem@astron.nl</a>)</div>
<div class="">Francois Bonnarel (CDS, <a href="mailto:francois.bonnarel@astro.unistra.fr" class="">francois.bonnarel@astro.unistra.fr</a>)</div>
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<div class="">James Dempsey, CSIRO (<a href="mailto:James.Dempsey@csiro.au" class="">James.Dempsey@csiro.au</a>) - also the DAL WG vice chair</div>
<div class="">Mark Lacy, NRAO (<a href="mailto:mlacy@nrao.edu" class="">mlacy@nrao.edu</a>) - and CSP member</div>
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<div class="">Roberto Pizzo, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:pizzo@astron.nl" class="">pizzo@astron.nl</a>) </div>
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<div class="">Marco Iacobelli, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:iacobelli@astron.nl" class="">iacobelli@astron.nl</a>)</div>
<div class="">Jun Han, China-VO (<a href="mailto:hanjun@nao.cas.cn" class="">hanjun@nao.cas.cn</a>)</div>
<div class="">Alessandra Zanichelli, INAF (<a href="mailto:a.zanichelli@ira.inaf.it" class="">a.zanichelli@ira.inaf.it</a>)</div>
<div class="">Arpad Szomoru, JIVE (<a href="mailto:szomoru@jive.eu" class="">szomoru@jive.eu</a>)</div>
<div class="">Harro Verkouter, JIVE (<a href="mailto:verkouter@jive.eu" class="">verkouter@jive.eu</a>)</div>
<div class="">Zheng Meyer, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:meyer@astron.nl" class="">meyer@astron.nl</a>)</div>
<div class="">Yan Grange, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:grange@astron.nl" class="">grange@astron.nl</a>)</div>
<div class="">Mark Sipior, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:sipior@astron.nl" class="">sipior@astron.nl</a>)</div>
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<div class="">As some of you might know, the International Virtual Observatory Alliance (<a href="http://ivoa.net/" class="">IVOA</a>) is meeting from the 11th to the 13th of October at the DOTliveplanetarium in Groningen (meeting page <a href="https://www.adass2019.nl/ivoa/ivoa-2/" class="">here</a>).
Given the vast experience in radioastronomy in the area and the potential availability of several expert radioastronomers in the area, we had the idea of organizing a “Radioastronomy in the VO” session to examine together the availability to radio data in
the VO and try to identify the simplest steps to connect both worlds or at least to move slightly in the right direction. We would be talking about a 1.5 to 2 hour plenary session during the IVOA interop meeting in Groningen with a few small presentations
to set the context and a discussion on what to do next. We would first like to invite you all to this session (either in person or remotely, giving a talk or just participating in the discussion) and would like to ask how do you think this discussion could
be more useful to both parties. We will take care of all the logistics of the session.</div>
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<div class="">An earlier similar discussion already took place in the context of the ESCAPE project and the notes can be found <a href="https://www.asterics2020.eu/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=open:wp4:wp4techforum5:radiointhevo" class="">here</a>. Therefore, we could start the session
with a summary of the conclusions from the earlier meeting by e.g. Francois Bonnarel from CDS and then try to identify the next steps to make all the Radio data easily available to the VO world and viceversa. We are very much aware that this is a long-standing
goal from the VO but we are determined to give it a second push now that many interfaces and protocols have matured substantially in the VO side.</div>
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<div class="">Any further comments and thoughts from any of you, or any recommendation to contact any other people in the data providers world for radioastronomy would be very useful too. I look forward hearing from you about this.</div>
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<div class="">Rosie Bolton, SKA Organization (<a href="mailto:R.Bolton@skatelescope.org" class="">R.Bolton@skatelescope.org</a>)</div>
<div class="">Mark Kettenis, JIVE (<a href="mailto:kettenis@jive.eu" class="">kettenis@jive.eu</a>)</div>
<div class="">Zheng Mayer-Zhao, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:meyer@astron.nl" class="">meyer@astron.nl</a>)</div>
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<div class="">Michiel van Haarlem, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:haarlem@astron.nl" class="">haarlem@astron.nl</a>)</div>
<div class="">Francois Bonnarel (CDS, <a href="mailto:francois.bonnarel@astro.unistra.fr" class="">francois.bonnarel@astro.unistra.fr</a>)</div>
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<div class="">James Dempsey, CSIRO (<a href="mailto:James.Dempsey@csiro.au" class="">James.Dempsey@csiro.au</a>) - also the DAL WG vice chair</div>
<div class="">Mark Lacy, NRAO (<a href="mailto:mlacy@nrao.edu" class="">mlacy@nrao.edu</a>) - and CSP member</div>
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<div class="">Roberto Pizzo, ASTRON (<a href="mailto:pizzo@astron.nl" class="">pizzo@astron.nl</a>) </div>
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