[csp] CSP panel session @ interop

[Vandana Desai]

I think that Tess Jaffe from Goddard would be a great choice. As part of
her work with the NASA Astronomical Virtual Observatories, Tess has been
leading a recurring workshop on how to access NASA Astrophysics data sets
via Python. Users are attracted to the Python aspect, but this is enabled
by the existence of uniform VO services, and also by Python layers like
astroquery that provide uniformity over a variety non-VO services.

These workshops are always fully subscribed and get pretty good responses.

In terms of making our services better, I have seen at least two results
(and Tess will likely have more to share):

- The initial efforts showed that pyvo wasn't quite ready for exposure in
this way, and so the group decided to collaborate with others to help
re-invigorate that package. Afterwards, the workshop materials were changed
to use pyvo underneath where possible.

- Also, the political need to make the tutorial notebooks multi-archive
have revealed inconsistencies in our interpretation of registry metadata.
That has led to the ongoing review of our registry metadata.

I could probably also wrangle someone from IPAC to discuss how designing
non-API, graphical user interfaces for multiple missions is made much
simpler through the use of VO protocols. In a sense, the bridge to the
research community is the GUI itself. And, as when using Python, even
though users don't necessarily know or care if they are using VO protocols,
those protocols are critically important for the developers. CSP member
Gregory Dubois-Felsmann, and IPAC scientist who works on Rubin and SPHEREx
would be a good choice to represent this angle. And I do think it's an
important one. I do believe that if we could convince data *providers* to
adopt VO protocols, that users would just adopt them with little effort.
Because they have to solve problems that are a lot more difficult to
analyse their data anyways!

My 2 cents.

Thanks,
Vandana


On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 2:08 AM ada nebot <ada.nebot at astro.unistra.fr> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> As we talked about the other day, we will have a CSP 1 hour panel
> discussion in the coming interop to talk about how we reach astronomers.
>
> The idea of the panel is to learn how we interact with the researchers.
> Something like: "Bringing the IVOA services and tools to the *research*
> community”. Note that what I have in mind is not about outreach activities
> (which could be added in an EduIG session), but rather the astronomers that
> use our services for their research.
>
> I have collected a couple of thoughts in the google doc here:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hTrpQiLJScqxe8JbayhyNJi6Hy9eR4K79pjIRtvQNkM/edit?usp=sharing
>
> *What do I need from you? I need three things: *
> 1. *Names* Please let me know by Wednesday next week (13.10) if you want
> to have a panelist from your institutes / organisations and the name of
> that person. If we get too many volunteers I don’t think this is a problem
> and if we don’t get enough I will knock on your doors ;)
> 2. *Questions:* Contribute in the Q&A part of the doc with whatever
> questions come to your
> 3. *Note taker:* I will need a volunteers note taker for the panel
> session since I will be charing I am afraid I won’t do a great job there.
>
> Thanks a lot for your contributions!
>
> Best,
> Ada
>
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