[csp] Draft "Radioastronomy in the VO" session agenda

[Andreas Wicenec]

Hi all,

Just to make you aware that there is work and discussions ongoing about a new version of the Measurement Set data model and we will also discuss the future of casacore and the MSv3 table system implementation to support real parallel I/O using advanced libraries such as ADIOS2 and HDF5. I think this discussion is very relevant for this session and indeed the MSv3 model would benefit from a proper data modelling exercise as well as a straight integration into the IVOA standards system.

My team also just recently has finished an enormous SKA simulation using the whole SUMMIT supercomputer and achieving an ingest pipeline throughput up to the writing of measurement sets of about twice the rate of the SKA1-Low, producing 115 TB of MS data within roughly 3 hours.

Cheers,
Andreas

On 7 Oct. 2019 16:40, Bruno Merin <bmerin at sciops.esa.int> wrote:
Thanks Mark,

That would be great indeed. I will add it to the agenda with 2 + 2 minutes.

Cheers,

Bruno


On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Mark Lacy <mlacy at nrao.edu<mailto:mlacy at nrao.edu>> wrote:


If you think there will be time in the discussion session and it won't be covered in the talks I can make a couple of slides on rotation measure data products.

Cheers,

Mark

On 10/7/19 4:30 PM, Bruno Merin wrote:
Dear all,

Thanks so much for your responses and apologies for the late response from my side. Here below you can find the link to the draft agenda for the “Radioastronomy in the VO” session, scheduled for Friday 11th of October of 2019 from 11:00 to 12:30 at the DOT Planetarium of Groningen:

https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpOct2019RadioVO
Friday October 11, 13h30 - 15h, Room DOT
Speaker<https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpOct2019RadioVO?sortcol=0;table=1;up=0#sorted_table>    Title<https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpOct2019RadioVO?sortcol=1;table=1;up=0#sorted_table>      Time<https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpOct2019RadioVO?sortcol=2;table=1;up=0#sorted_table>       Material<https://wiki.ivoa.net/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/InterOpOct2019RadioVO?sortcol=3;table=1;up=0#sorted_table>
Francois Bonarel        Introduction to previous VO work on Radioastronomy      20' + 2'
James Dempsey   VO implementation experiences at CSIRO  10' + 2'
Jun Han         FAST radio telescope data processing and management     10' + 2'
Mark Krettenis  VLBI-specifics aspects and data products        10' + 2'
Mark Sipior     VO services at ASTRON   10' + 2'
        Discussion and Wrap-up  15'


I would like to ask for explicit confirmation from those in the draft agenda above about their availability to give such presentation, their preference for title and duration (including questions) and any other comments or suggestions that you might have. In particular, I would need confirmation about Mike Sipior’s presentation which is also scheduled in the OPS session on Saturday but I also added to the agenda if possible here to have a full picture of all available services before the discussion afterwards. Of course, this is a draft agenda and it can be changed as needed before the session itself, so just let me know your preferences.

We look forward meeting you all on Friday and together contributing to bringing all these precious Radioastronomical data into the VO world to everyone’s benefit. I hope that this session, together with other earlier work already being pushed forward in the ASTERICS and ESCAPE projects, might help us move on significantly in this long-standing wish of the VO and Radioastronomy user communities.

Best regards,

Bruno
On behalf of the IVOA’s Committee on Science Priorities (CSP)

In copy:

Rosie Bolton, SKA Organization (R.Bolton at skatelescope.org<mailto:R.Bolton at skatelescope.org>)
Mark Kettenis, JIVE (kettenis at jive.eu<mailto:kettenis at jive.eu>)
Zheng Mayer-Zhao, ASTRON (meyer at astron.nl<mailto:meyer at astron.nl>)
Michiel van Haarlem, ASTRON (haarlem at astron.nl<mailto:haarlem at astron.nl>)
Francois Bonnarel (CDS, francois.bonnarel at astro.unistra.fr<mailto:francois.bonnarel at astro.unistra.fr>)
James Dempsey, CSIRO (James.Dempsey at csiro.au<mailto:James.Dempsey at csiro.au>) - also the DAL WG vice chair
Mark Lacy, NRAO (mlacy at nrao.edu<mailto:mlacy at nrao.edu>) - and CSP member
Roberto Pizzo, ASTRON (pizzo at astron.nl<mailto:pizzo at astron.nl>)
Marco Iacobelli, ASTRON (iacobelli at astron.nl<mailto:iacobelli at astron.nl>)
Jun Han, China-VO (hanjun at nao.cas.cn<mailto:hanjun at nao.cas.cn>)
Alessandra Zanichelli, INAF (a.zanichelli at ira.inaf.it<mailto:a.zanichelli at ira.inaf.it>)
Arpad Szomoru, JIVE (szomoru at jive.eu<mailto:szomoru at jive.eu>)
Harro Verkouter, JIVE (verkouter at jive.eu<mailto:verkouter at jive.eu>)
Zheng Meyer, ASTRON (meyer at astron.nl<mailto:meyer at astron.nl>)
Yan Grange, ASTRON (grange at astron.nl<mailto:grange at astron.nl>)
Mark Sipior, ASTRON (sipior at astron.nl<mailto:sipior at astron.nl>)




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Villanueva de la Cañada, 28692 Madrid, Spain

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On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Bruno Merin <bmerin at sciops.esa.int<mailto:bmerin at sciops.esa.int>> wrote:

Dear all,

As some of you might know, the International Virtual Observatory Alliance (IVOA<http://ivoa.net/>) is meeting from the 11th to the 13th of October at the DOTliveplanetarium in Groningen (meeting page here<https://www.adass2019.nl/ivoa/ivoa-2/>). Given the vast experience in radioastronomy in the area and the potential availability of several expert radioastronomers in the area, we had the idea of organizing a “Radioastronomy in the VO” session to examine together the availability to radio data in the VO and try to identify the simplest steps to connect both worlds or at least to move slightly in the right direction. We would be talking about a 1.5 to 2 hour plenary session during the IVOA interop meeting in Groningen with a few small presentations to set the context and a discussion on what to do next. We would first like to invite you all to this session (either in person or remotely, giving a talk or just participating in the discussion) and would like to ask how do you think this discussion could be more useful to both parties. We will take care of all the logistics of the session.

An earlier similar discussion already took place in the context of the ESCAPE project and the notes can be found here<https://www.asterics2020.eu/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=open:wp4:wp4techforum5:radiointhevo>. Therefore, we could start the session with a summary of the conclusions from the earlier meeting by e.g. Francois Bonnarel from CDS and then try to identify the next steps to make all the Radio data easily available to the VO world and viceversa. We are very much aware that this is a long-standing goal from the VO but we are determined to give it a second push now that many interfaces and protocols have matured substantially in the VO side.

Any further comments and thoughts from any of you, or any recommendation to contact any other people in the data providers world for radioastronomy would be very useful too. I look forward hearing from you about this.

This is the list of people that I have addressed this message to, together with their affiliation and potential role in the IVOA:

Rosie Bolton, SKA Organization (R.Bolton at skatelescope.org<mailto:R.Bolton at skatelescope.org>)
Mark Kettenis, JIVE (kettenis at jive.eu<mailto:kettenis at jive.eu>)
Zheng Mayer-Zhao, ASTRON (meyer at astron.nl<mailto:meyer at astron.nl>)
Michiel van Haarlem, ASTRON (haarlem at astron.nl<mailto:haarlem at astron.nl>)
Francois Bonnarel (CDS, francois.bonnarel at astro.unistra.fr<mailto:francois.bonnarel at astro.unistra.fr>)
James Dempsey, CSIRO (James.Dempsey at csiro.au<mailto:James.Dempsey at csiro.au>) - also the DAL WG vice chair
Mark Lacy, NRAO (mlacy at nrao.edu<mailto:mlacy at nrao.edu>) - and CSP member
Roberto Pizzo, ASTRON (pizzo at astron.nl<mailto:pizzo at astron.nl>)

Best regards and thanks in advance for your responses,

Bruno

On behalf of the IVOA Committee on Science Priorities (CSP)



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Dr. Bruno Merín
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European Space Astronomy Centre (ESAC)
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