<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div>I suppose the three examples are</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable_Prop4a.xml" target="_blank">http://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable_Prop4a.xml</a><br><a href="http://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable_Prop4a.xml" target="_blank">http://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable_Prop4b.xml</a><br><a href="http://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable_Prop4a.xml" target="_blank">http://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable_Prop4c.xml</a></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>    Marco<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-02-12 8:09 GMT+01:00 Pierre Fernique <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:Pierre.Fernique@astro.unistra.fr" target="_blank">Pierre.Fernique@astro.unistra.fr</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>Dear App members,<br>
      <br>
      May I emphasise the Gerard&#39;s mail. <br>
      <br>
      VOTable is a key element of the VO. The VODML serialization in
      VOTable discussed here will have probably a big impact on our
      standards and applications  - for the best I hope. So please take
      time to look carefully the Gerard&#39;s proposal and do not hesitate
      to bring your contribution.<br>
      <br>
      The fastest ways to have an clear idea of the goal is to have a
      look on this example and the 2 other variants:<br>
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<a href="http://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable_Prop4a.xml" target="_blank">http://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable_Prop4a.xml</a><br>
<a href="http://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable_Prop4a.xml" target="_blank">http://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable_Prop4a.xml</a><br>
<a href="http://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable_Prop4a.xml" target="_blank">http://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable_Prop4a.xml</a><br>
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      Thanks for your contribution<br>
      Best regards<br>
      Pierre Fernique<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Le 11/02/2015 17:02, Gerard Lemson a écrit :<br>
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        <div>Dear all</div>
        <div>It would be nice if we could quickly agree how to annotate
          VOTable elements with metadata pointing to VO-DMl data models.</div>
        <div>In the votable/vo-dml session in Banff we came to a
          decision to add a new element to VOTable that would represent
          this mapping and would take the place of the utype attributes
          we had assumed to use for that in the current mapping document
          in <a href="https://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/MappingDMtoVOTable-v1.0.docx" target="_blank">https://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/MappingDMtoVOTable-v1.0.docx</a>.</div>
        <div>The detailed design of this element was still left open and
          I sent out an email shortly after the interop in which I made
          some suggestions, which I thought I had adequately illustrated
          with examples of the possible XML schema snippets. Maybe this
          was not clear, so I have updated the contents of</div>
        <div><a href="https://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable" target="_blank">https://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable</a></div>
        <div>It now contains for three possible designs, labeled 4a, 4b
          and 4c, full VOTable schemas and three corresponding versions
          of a VOTable following these schemas and showing the different
          ways to annotate the same tables.</div>
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        <div>E.g. <a href="https://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable-1.3_vodml4a.xsd" target="_blank">https://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable-1.3_vodml4a.xsd</a>
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        <div>is a possible new schema and </div>
        <div><a href="https://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable_Prop4a.xml" target="_blank">https://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votable/VOTable_Prop4a.xml</a></div>
        <div>an annotated VOTable following that design.</div>
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        <div>Note that in the three different proposals only the
          *content* of the &lt;VODML&gt; elements, as described by the
          structure of the VODMLAnnotaiton complexType definition, is
          different. Their association to PARAM, GROUP, PARAMref and
          FIELDref elements is the same.</div>
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        <div>Please let me know if this is still not clear or comment on
          the design possibilities.</div>
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        <div>Cheers</div>
        <div>Gerard</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Gerard
          Lemson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:gerard.lemson@gmail.com" target="_blank">gerard.lemson@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <br>
            During the VO-DML-in-VOTable discussion at the last interop
            we decided to go<br>
            with (something like) proposal 4 on the wiki at<br>
            <a href="https://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votab%0Ale/VOTable_Prop4.xml" target="_blank">https://volute.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/projects/dm/vo-dml/doc/samples/votab<br>
              le/VOTable_Prop4.xml</a>  Other options can be found in
            the same folder.<br>
            What we now need is to finalize the design for the XML
            tag(s) to add to<br>
            VOTable.<br>
            I have created a mockup of an XML schema with a complexType
            definition<br>
            reflecting the new element.<br>
            The design used in proposal 4 above is represented by
            proposal 4a in the<br>
            schema. It has attributes for role and actual type, and
            elements for<br>
            alternative types. Proposals 4b and 4c vary on this theme.
            All use a<br>
            simpleType definition reflecting the
            model-prefix+&#39;:&#39;+vodml-id pattern used<br>
            to refer to VO-DML elements. See the mapping document for
            more detailed<br>
            descriptions (taking into account the fact that that
            document will have to<br>
            be updated with the choice to be made here).<br>
            <br>
            Note, I am not making statements on whether these two types
            must be in the<br>
            VOTable targetnamespace. Andreas had some thoughts on this
            that I hope he<br>
            will send to the list in reply.<br>
            <br>
            And obviously the final design may differ from these
            proposals if necessary,<br>
            but let&#39;s please converge on an acceptable design soon so
            Omar and I can<br>
            update the mapping document.<br>
            <br>
            Cheers<br>
            <span><font color="#888888">Gerard<br>
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